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Не понял, как вставлять цитаты (кнопка "цитата" или почему-то не работает, или я умудряюсь неправильно ей пользоваться; UPD: уже понял, ну да черт с ним), так что так:

"Я уже неоднократно повторял то, о чём говорили и сами разработчики." Мм... а вас не затруднит дать ссылку на источник?

"Yes, there is a subfolder inside the games installation called "locale" or something. In there, you can find the localization for the 6-7 languages. In the last implementation, I think it was all inside a big text-file (compressed, w extension JSON.Z), with thousands of entries, for each piece of text in the game. Problem is that you can translate each entry separately, but you can't easily follow the thread of a dialogue unless you also know the structure of the dialogue, e.g. through other game-files, probably not available to translators (?). I think that is where the consistency in translations got broken, i.e. they translated phrase-by-phrase, not looking at the overall meaning of a dialogue or a scene."

Я нашел это сообщение там, где ожидал, и от того, от кого ожидал, и это написал не разработчик. Кроме того, речь там вроде как шла про первую часть.

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Не понял, как вставлять цитаты (кнопка "цитата" или почему-то не работает, или я умудряюсь неправильно ей пользоваться; UPD: уже понял, ну да черт с ним), так что так:

"Я уже неоднократно повторял то, о чём говорили и сами разработчики." Мм... а вас не затруднит дать ссылку на источник?

"Yes, there is a subfolder inside the games installation called "locale" or something. In there, you can find the localization for the 6-7 languages. In the last implementation, I think it was all inside a big text-file (compressed, w extension JSON.Z), with thousands of entries, for each piece of text in the game. Problem is that you can translate each entry separately, but you can't easily follow the thread of a dialogue unless you also know the structure of the dialogue, e.g. through other game-files, probably not available to translators (?). I think that is where the consistency in translations got broken, i.e. they translated phrase-by-phrase, not looking at the overall meaning of a dialogue or a scene."

Я нашел это сообщение там, где ожидал, и от того, от кого ожидал, и это написал не разработчик. Кроме того, речь там вроде как шла про первую часть.

Вообще-то этот комьюнити-модератор цитирует именно разработчика. Там же, к слову, есть ссылка на сообщение от разработчика, где он пишет (ещё в 2015-ом году про первую часть), что пришлось переработать всю систему.

В той же теме в комьюнити на след. странице уже не модер, а разработчик расписал, что с локализацией сложности. Вообще, в комьюнити всё это есть. И сами разработчики объясняют, что технически не могут реализовать несколько языков на старте.

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Вообще-то этот комьюнити-модератор цитирует именно разработчика. Там же, к слову, есть ссылка на сообщение от разработчика, где он пишет (ещё в 2015-ом году про первую часть), что пришлось переработать всю систему.

В той же теме в комьюнити на след. странице уже не модер, а разработчик расписал, что с локализацией сложности. Вообще, в комьюнити всё это есть. И сами разработчики объясняют, что технически не могут реализовать несколько языков на старте.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/281640/discu...449508278903012 - это ничуть не цитата. Ну ладно, допустим. Я пришел сюда не спорить, а спросить, собираетесь ли переводить вы. Но если разработчики и правда по техническим причинам не могут сейчас сделать перевод, то, стало быть, вы этим тем более не займетесь?

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Первая версия перевода делалась еще в тот момент когда разработчик не приспособил ресурсы для перевода.

Так что это не проблема. Более того на тот момент мы перевели то, что в финальной версии переведено небыло, потому что разработчики не вынесли эти строки в "локализации".

Так что еще неизвестно как в итоге лучше для перевода)

P.s: по поводу сложности перевода не структурированого текста, не проблема. Я по-моему вполне нормально придумал тогда как "показать структуру" на нотабеноиде.

P.s2: в общем, лиж бы переводчики собрались, остальное решаемо.

P.s3: Greyv извини( только сейчас увидел... И я так понимаю уже не надо?

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Problem is that you can translate each entry separately, but you can't easily follow the thread of a dialogue unless you also know the structure of the dialogue, e.g. through other game-files

Как бы, именно в таких условиях первую и переводили. И, наверно, вообще 99,9% всех игр на ZOG'е, нет?

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Как бы, именно в таких условиях первую и переводили. И, наверно, вообще 99,9% всех игр на ZOG'е, нет?

Отнюдь. Просто с первой частью разработчик спохватился слишком поздно, чтобы делать процесс перевода игры удобным и возможным.

А в данном случае разработчик осознаёт сам сложность работы с недоступными строками и т.д. и хочет поработать над этим моментом.

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Сомневаюсь, что что-то менялось технически. У них уже был готовый движок, задавший большинство аспектов работы с текстом. Да, могли захардкодить какие-то новые строки, но вряд ли перелопатили всё, что было - да ещё и в сторону неудобства.

Или их заявление надо читать как "скоро выкатим тулзу"?

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Я даже написал им, спросив, действительно ли причина отсутствия локализаций - технические проблемы, на что они ответили:

No technical aspects. Just time and money. Some are more difficult than others.
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После сегодняшнего непонятного обновления - русик с ЗоГ не работает.

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Из любопытства скачал и установил давно купленную в GOG лицензию. Все по-русски, все работает.

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После сегодняшнего непонятного обновления - русик с ЗоГ не работает.

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всё встает и работает, может какие строки и добавили новые(чтобы найти нужно время) но они перевод не ломают

Попробуйте просто переустановить перевод.

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всё встает и работает, может какие строки и добавили новые(чтобы найти нужно время) но они перевод не ломают

Попробуйте просто переустановить перевод.

Да. спасибо, переустановка помогла.

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всё встает и работает, может какие строки и добавили новые(чтобы найти нужно время) но они перевод не ломают

Попробуйте просто переустановить перевод.

2 часть будите переводить когда выйдет или ждать официального перевода ?

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2 часть будите переводить когда выйдет или ждать официального перевода ?

Выйдет, там и решат будут переводить или нет. Да и в любом случае ждать, перевод дело не быстрое.

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Жанр: TBS / RPG

Платформы: PC MAC LIN

Разработчик: Stoic

Издатель: Versus Evil

Дата выхода на PC: 19 апреля 2016

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Собственно, уже через несколько часов игра будет доступна для скачивания в Стиме. Как и два года назад в случае с первой частью, есть желание собрать команду для перевода, которая, надеюсь, будет включать как старых участников, так и новых.

Перевод: http://notabenoid.org/book/63641/

Прогресс перевода: Перевод текста завершён. Идёт закрытый бета-тест перевода. (12.07.2016)

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      All coins are being generated by specified flash bitcoin softwares. The minimum Order is $2000 btc you pay $200 to get $2000 btc worth of Flash BTC The Maximum Order is $10,000,000 btc Flash BTC will be securely stored in any wallet for a period of up to 90 days before being rejected by the blockchain network. Gain a thorough understanding of this procedure to safeguard your digital assets from potential loss. fastusdts is available to provide guidance throughout the flashing process and ensure the security of your bitcoin holdings. We are the Best Bitcoin Flashing Service you will find Online WE SELL FLASH COINS FEATURES OF OUR FLASH BITCOIN The first is that it disappears in any wallet it is found in and any crypto it has been converted to after 90 days from the date you received it. The second difference is that Flash BTC cannot be transferred more than 12 times. And the third difference is that Flash Bitcoin can be converted into any other type of crypto coin in an exchange, but if it is restored, that coin will also disappear after 90 days. 100% confirmed transaction The transaction fee is max, ie priority for quick confirmation Cannot cancel a transaction with the Bitcoin server You can spend bitcoins easily on any other address (Segwit address, legacy, Segwit / bch32)
      It works with all wallets. contact us on telegram or whattsapp https://fastusdts.com/product/flash-bitcoin/ https://wa.link/34xulv https://t.me/Fastusdts FLASH USDT TRC20 Unlocking the Power of Flash USDT: A Revolutionary Way to Transact on Blockchain In the ever-evolving world of cryptocurrency, innovation is key to staying ahead. One of the most exciting developments in this space is the introduction of Flash USDT, available in both ERC20 and TRC20 formats. This innovative digital asset is designed to revolutionize how you conduct transactions on blockchain networks, providing an efficient, seamless, and user-friendly experience. Understanding USDT FLASH Flash USDT is not just another cryptocurrency; it’s a unique solution that empowers users to manage their digital assets effectively. Whether you are an experienced trader or new to the crypto world, Flash USDT offers you an opportunity to transact with confidence. With a minimum order requirement of just $2,000, you can pay $200 to receive $2,000 worth of Flash USDT. This accessible entry point makes it easier for individuals and businesses to leverage the benefits of this innovative financial tool. For those looking to maximize their investment, the service also supports larger transactions, with a maximum order cap of $550,000 for a fee of $55,000. This scalability makes Flash USDT an appealing option for a wide range of users, from individual investors to institutional players. https://fastusdts.com/product/flash-usdt/ https://wa.link/34xulv https://t.me/Fastusdts Why Choose USDT FLASH? 1. What happens to USDT FLASH after 50 days?
      After 50 to 90 days from the date you received it, Flash USDT will automatically disappear from your wallet, as well as any cryptocurrency it has been converted to. This feature encourages timely transactions and adds a sense of urgency to your trading strategies. 2. Can I transfer USDT FLASH to another user?
      Yes, you can transfer Flash USDT, but remember that it can only be transferred up to 12 times. After that, it will no longer be valid. This limitation ensures that users maintain control over their assets while facilitating efficient exchanges. 3. Can I convert USDT FLASH into other cryptocurrencies?
      Absolutely! Flash USDT can be converted into any other cryptocurrency available on exchanges. However, keep in mind that if the converted coin is restored to Flash USDT, it will also disappear after ten days. 4. Is fastusdts a trustworthy platform?
      Yes, fastusdts is committed to providing a secure and reliable environment for all your cryptocurrency transactions. Our security measures and customer support ensure that your experience is both safe and enjoyable. https://fastusdts.com/product/flash-usdt/ https://wa.link/34xulv https://t.me/Fastusdts
    • flash Bitcoin refers to a cryptocurrency sent to your wallet but doesn’t stay there for a long time, depending on the software used to flash the coin. Flash bitcoin has no difference with real bitcoin itself, except for the fact that it does not last for a lifetime.
      All coins are being generated by specified flash bitcoin softwares. The minimum Order is $2000 btc you pay $200 to get $2000 btc worth of Flash BTC The Maximum Order is $10,000,000 btc Flash BTC will be securely stored in any wallet for a period of up to 90 days before being rejected by the blockchain network. Gain a thorough understanding of this procedure to safeguard your digital assets from potential loss. fastusdts is available to provide guidance throughout the flashing process and ensure the security of your bitcoin holdings. We are the Best Bitcoin Flashing Service you will find Online WE SELL FLASH COINS FEATURES OF OUR FLASH BITCOIN The first is that it disappears in any wallet it is found in and any crypto it has been converted to after 90 days from the date you received it. The second difference is that Flash BTC cannot be transferred more than 12 times. And the third difference is that Flash Bitcoin can be converted into any other type of crypto coin in an exchange, but if it is restored, that coin will also disappear after 90 days. 100% confirmed transaction The transaction fee is max, ie priority for quick confirmation Cannot cancel a transaction with the Bitcoin server You can spend bitcoins easily on any other address (Segwit address, legacy, Segwit / bch32)
      It works with all wallets. contact us on telegram or whattsapp https://fastusdts.com/product/flash-bitcoin/ https://wa.link/34xulv https://t.me/Fastusdts FLASH USDT TRC20 Unlocking the Power of Flash USDT: A Revolutionary Way to Transact on Blockchain In the ever-evolving world of cryptocurrency, innovation is key to staying ahead. One of the most exciting developments in this space is the introduction of Flash USDT, available in both ERC20 and TRC20 formats. This innovative digital asset is designed to revolutionize how you conduct transactions on blockchain networks, providing an efficient, seamless, and user-friendly experience. Understanding USDT FLASH Flash USDT is not just another cryptocurrency; it’s a unique solution that empowers users to manage their digital assets effectively. Whether you are an experienced trader or new to the crypto world, Flash USDT offers you an opportunity to transact with confidence. With a minimum order requirement of just $2,000, you can pay $200 to receive $2,000 worth of Flash USDT. This accessible entry point makes it easier for individuals and businesses to leverage the benefits of this innovative financial tool. For those looking to maximize their investment, the service also supports larger transactions, with a maximum order cap of $550,000 for a fee of $55,000. This scalability makes Flash USDT an appealing option for a wide range of users, from individual investors to institutional players. https://fastusdts.com/product/flash-usdt/ https://wa.link/34xulv https://t.me/Fastusdts Why Choose USDT FLASH? 1. What happens to USDT FLASH after 50 days?
      After 50 to 90 days from the date you received it, Flash USDT will automatically disappear from your wallet, as well as any cryptocurrency it has been converted to. This feature encourages timely transactions and adds a sense of urgency to your trading strategies. 2. Can I transfer USDT FLASH to another user?
      Yes, you can transfer Flash USDT, but remember that it can only be transferred up to 12 times. After that, it will no longer be valid. This limitation ensures that users maintain control over their assets while facilitating efficient exchanges. 3. Can I convert USDT FLASH into other cryptocurrencies?
      Absolutely! Flash USDT can be converted into any other cryptocurrency available on exchanges. However, keep in mind that if the converted coin is restored to Flash USDT, it will also disappear after ten days. 4. Is fastusdts a trustworthy platform?
      Yes, fastusdts is committed to providing a secure and reliable environment for all your cryptocurrency transactions. Our security measures and customer support ensure that your experience is both safe and enjoyable. https://fastusdts.com/product/flash-usdt/ https://wa.link/34xulv https://t.me/Fastusdts
    • flash Bitcoin refers to a cryptocurrency sent to your wallet but doesn’t stay there for a long time, depending on the software used to flash the coin. Flash bitcoin has no difference with real bitcoin itself, except for the fact that it does not last for a lifetime.
      All coins are being generated by specified flash bitcoin softwares. The minimum Order is $2000 btc you pay $200 to get $2000 btc worth of Flash BTC The Maximum Order is $10,000,000 btc Flash BTC will be securely stored in any wallet for a period of up to 90 days before being rejected by the blockchain network. Gain a thorough understanding of this procedure to safeguard your digital assets from potential loss. fastusdts is available to provide guidance throughout the flashing process and ensure the security of your bitcoin holdings. We are the Best Bitcoin Flashing Service you will find Online WE SELL FLASH COINS FEATURES OF OUR FLASH BITCOIN The first is that it disappears in any wallet it is found in and any crypto it has been converted to after 90 days from the date you received it. The second difference is that Flash BTC cannot be transferred more than 12 times. And the third difference is that Flash Bitcoin can be converted into any other type of crypto coin in an exchange, but if it is restored, that coin will also disappear after 90 days. 100% confirmed transaction The transaction fee is max, ie priority for quick confirmation Cannot cancel a transaction with the Bitcoin server You can spend bitcoins easily on any other address (Segwit address, legacy, Segwit / bch32)
      It works with all wallets. contact us on telegram or whattsapp https://fastusdts.com/product/flash-bitcoin/ https://wa.link/34xulv https://t.me/Fastusdts FLASH USDT TRC20 Unlocking the Power of Flash USDT: A Revolutionary Way to Transact on Blockchain In the ever-evolving world of cryptocurrency, innovation is key to staying ahead. One of the most exciting developments in this space is the introduction of Flash USDT, available in both ERC20 and TRC20 formats. This innovative digital asset is designed to revolutionize how you conduct transactions on blockchain networks, providing an efficient, seamless, and user-friendly experience. Understanding USDT FLASH Flash USDT is not just another cryptocurrency; it’s a unique solution that empowers users to manage their digital assets effectively. Whether you are an experienced trader or new to the crypto world, Flash USDT offers you an opportunity to transact with confidence. With a minimum order requirement of just $2,000, you can pay $200 to receive $2,000 worth of Flash USDT. This accessible entry point makes it easier for individuals and businesses to leverage the benefits of this innovative financial tool. For those looking to maximize their investment, the service also supports larger transactions, with a maximum order cap of $550,000 for a fee of $55,000. This scalability makes Flash USDT an appealing option for a wide range of users, from individual investors to institutional players. https://fastusdts.com/product/flash-usdt/ https://wa.link/34xulv https://t.me/Fastusdts Why Choose USDT FLASH? 1. What happens to USDT FLASH after 50 days?
      After 50 to 90 days from the date you received it, Flash USDT will automatically disappear from your wallet, as well as any cryptocurrency it has been converted to. This feature encourages timely transactions and adds a sense of urgency to your trading strategies. 2. Can I transfer USDT FLASH to another user?
      Yes, you can transfer Flash USDT, but remember that it can only be transferred up to 12 times. After that, it will no longer be valid. This limitation ensures that users maintain control over their assets while facilitating efficient exchanges. 3. Can I convert USDT FLASH into other cryptocurrencies?
      Absolutely! Flash USDT can be converted into any other cryptocurrency available on exchanges. However, keep in mind that if the converted coin is restored to Flash USDT, it will also disappear after ten days. 4. Is fastusdts a trustworthy platform?
      Yes, fastusdts is committed to providing a secure and reliable environment for all your cryptocurrency transactions. Our security measures and customer support ensure that your experience is both safe and enjoyable. https://fastusdts.com/product/flash-usdt/ https://wa.link/34xulv https://t.me/Fastusdts
    • flash Bitcoin refers to a cryptocurrency sent to your wallet but doesn’t stay there for a long time, depending on the software used to flash the coin. Flash bitcoin has no difference with real bitcoin itself, except for the fact that it does not last for a lifetime.
      All coins are being generated by specified flash bitcoin softwares. The minimum Order is $2000 btc you pay $200 to get $2000 btc worth of Flash BTC The Maximum Order is $10,000,000 btc Flash BTC will be securely stored in any wallet for a period of up to 90 days before being rejected by the blockchain network. Gain a thorough understanding of this procedure to safeguard your digital assets from potential loss. fastusdts is available to provide guidance throughout the flashing process and ensure the security of your bitcoin holdings. We are the Best Bitcoin Flashing Service you will find Online WE SELL FLASH COINS FEATURES OF OUR FLASH BITCOIN The first is that it disappears in any wallet it is found in and any crypto it has been converted to after 90 days from the date you received it. The second difference is that Flash BTC cannot be transferred more than 12 times. And the third difference is that Flash Bitcoin can be converted into any other type of crypto coin in an exchange, but if it is restored, that coin will also disappear after 90 days. 100% confirmed transaction The transaction fee is max, ie priority for quick confirmation Cannot cancel a transaction with the Bitcoin server You can spend bitcoins easily on any other address (Segwit address, legacy, Segwit / bch32)
      It works with all wallets. contact us on telegram or whattsapp https://fastusdts.com/product/flash-bitcoin/ https://wa.link/34xulv https://t.me/Fastusdts FLASH USDT TRC20 Unlocking the Power of Flash USDT: A Revolutionary Way to Transact on Blockchain In the ever-evolving world of cryptocurrency, innovation is key to staying ahead. One of the most exciting developments in this space is the introduction of Flash USDT, available in both ERC20 and TRC20 formats. This innovative digital asset is designed to revolutionize how you conduct transactions on blockchain networks, providing an efficient, seamless, and user-friendly experience. Understanding USDT FLASH Flash USDT is not just another cryptocurrency; it’s a unique solution that empowers users to manage their digital assets effectively. Whether you are an experienced trader or new to the crypto world, Flash USDT offers you an opportunity to transact with confidence. With a minimum order requirement of just $2,000, you can pay $200 to receive $2,000 worth of Flash USDT. This accessible entry point makes it easier for individuals and businesses to leverage the benefits of this innovative financial tool. For those looking to maximize their investment, the service also supports larger transactions, with a maximum order cap of $550,000 for a fee of $55,000. This scalability makes Flash USDT an appealing option for a wide range of users, from individual investors to institutional players. https://fastusdts.com/product/flash-usdt/ https://wa.link/34xulv https://t.me/Fastusdts Why Choose USDT FLASH? 1. What happens to USDT FLASH after 50 days?
      After 50 to 90 days from the date you received it, Flash USDT will automatically disappear from your wallet, as well as any cryptocurrency it has been converted to. This feature encourages timely transactions and adds a sense of urgency to your trading strategies. 2. Can I transfer USDT FLASH to another user?
      Yes, you can transfer Flash USDT, but remember that it can only be transferred up to 12 times. After that, it will no longer be valid. This limitation ensures that users maintain control over their assets while facilitating efficient exchanges. 3. Can I convert USDT FLASH into other cryptocurrencies?
      Absolutely! Flash USDT can be converted into any other cryptocurrency available on exchanges. However, keep in mind that if the converted coin is restored to Flash USDT, it will also disappear after ten days. 4. Is fastusdts a trustworthy platform?
      Yes, fastusdts is committed to providing a secure and reliable environment for all your cryptocurrency transactions. Our security measures and customer support ensure that your experience is both safe and enjoyable. https://fastusdts.com/product/flash-usdt/ https://wa.link/34xulv https://t.me/Fastusdts
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