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[Игры года ’19] Плохие специальные номинации

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Для удобства итоги голосований из цикла «Лучшие игры 2019 года» разделены на четыре части:


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Худшая PC-версия

  1. Red Dead Redemption 2
  2. Anthem

Не совсем понятно, чем вам не угодил Anthem. Да, игра не оправдала ожиданий, но технические проблемы у нее если и были, то не на ПК, а сразу на всех платформах.

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Наверное, трудно спорить с «прекрасным» качеством Red Dead Redemption 2. Но мы выделим еще две игры:

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Худшая локализация

Отсутствует! На первом месте вариант «против всех», хотя Wolfenstein: Youngblood был к нему страшно близок.

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Абсолютный ужас в Wolfenstein: Youngblood

Худший римейк/переиздание

  1. Assassin's Creed III Remastered

Компания, всегда славившаяся технологичностью своих игр, умудрилась выпустить ремастер, над которым как будто работали «левые» люди. Люди, так и не понявшие, чем была хороша третья часть.

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Assassin's Creed III Remastered

Провалы Epic Games Store

  1. Грандиозный скандал с уходом Metro: Exodus из Steam в Epic Store за две недели до релиза.
  2. Epic Games сначала представила целый план по развитию магазина, а потом тихо его свернула. Где корзина, Тим?
  3. Epic Launcher активно сканировал папки Steam, пока это не заметили игроки.
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Почти единогласно победил вариант #2. Не очень понятно, как можно обещать бурное развитие, а потом про все это скромно «забыть», закидывая публику бесплатными играми.

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Разочарование года

  1. Anthem
  2. Wolfenstein: Youngblood
  3. Shenmue 3
  4. Rune 2
  5. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare
  6. Assassin’s Creed 3 Remastered
  7. Far Cry: New Dawn
  8. Rage 2
  9. The Sinking City
  10. (=) Contra: Rogue Corps
  11. (=) Life Is Strange 2

К сожалению, год был полон крахом фанатских надежд в самых разных игровых областях. Легендарная BioWare выпустила вторую подряд плохую игру, разработчики Wolfenstein: Youngblood (это вы еще Cyberpilot не видели!) как будто забыли, о чем вообще всегда была серия.

Shenmue 3 — страшный пришелец из прошлого. А Rune 2, наверное, заняла бы призовое место в номинации «худшая игра года» — до чего она плоха.

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Anthem. Впрочем, вариантов было великое множество:

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Как так?!?! 

Ведь у рдр 2 не было проблем (только на ведрах с 1060-1080)

А шенму 3 это просто супер игра за такие деньги..

ну мне так говорили на форуме, некоторые люди)

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Как же надоели эти наезды на качество PC версии RDR2. Если игра не выдаёт 60 FPS это не означает, что игра убога в техническом исполнении и плохо оптимизирована. Да, игра прожорливая. Даже очень. Впервые за неск лет у меня игра не выдала 60 fps (я с ведром 1060). Я с этим смирился. Начал играть с настройками, чтобы получить как можно бОльший fps. Настроил игру на высоко-средние настройки и стабильным 40 fps. Повторюсь “стабильным 40 fps”. В любом месте, любой сцене: Сан-Дени, степь — всегда 40 fps.

Плохо оптимизированная игра не будет так….стабильно работать. Вспомните GTA IV как скакал fps. Да далеко ходить не надо — Detroit:BH, где пришлось включать “консольный” лок на 30 fps для стабильной, а не дерганной картинки.

Вернусь к RDR2. Есть ролик от ребят Digital Foundry, которые разжевали PC версию вдоль и поперёк. Параллельно сравнивая графику с XB1 версией игры. Там показано насколько лучше графика в PC версии, отсюда и требования у игры соответствующие.

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21 минуту назад, ToaD сказал:

Если игра не выдаёт 60 FPS это не означает, что игра убога в техническом исполнении и плохо оптимизирована.

Вы видимо не в курсе, что игра зависала при распаковке, перекачивала сама себя, грузила CPU на 100% в роликах, вылетала в меню, при загрузке, в роликах. На то, что она не выдает 60 ФПС, всем плевать.

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1 час назад, SerGEAnt сказал:

Вы видимо не в курсе, что игра зависала при распаковке, перекачивала сама себя, грузила CPU на 100% в роликах, вылетала в меню, при загрузке, в роликах. На то, что она не выдает 60 ФПС, всем плевать.

Видимо не в курсе.

Из перечисленного ни с чем не сталкивался. Единственное было когда при загрузке игры вылетало на десктоп пару раз. Но при следующей загрузке всё было норм.

“...игра зависала при распаковке, перекачивала сама себя...”. Я недаюсь вы не о первоначальной установки игры. Ибо сетовать на то как игра устанавливается — это такое себе.

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18 часов назад, SerGEAnt сказал:

технические проблемы у нее если и были

Постоянно, постоянно, постоянно выкидывает из сети. Спустя столько времени после релиза игра, всё равно, постоянно выдаёт ошибки о потерянном соединении.

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1 час назад, ToaD сказал:

Видимо не в курсе.

Иногда очень полезно вылезать из берлоги, да.

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41 минуту назад, SerGEAnt сказал:

Иногда очень полезно вылезать из берлоги, да.

Я о том, что в моей берлоге не было никаких проблем ни при установке ни при самой игре. Почти. Хотя мой ПК не такой новый, 2013 года, кроме “докупленной” 1060.

Если у кого-то проблемы технического характера — так нужно разбираться персонально, рыть интернет. Так я победил, например ошибку при входе в роковский лаунчер. Есть и такое понятие как “человеческий фактор”, т.е. руки не из того места растут.

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1 час назад, DupaVoz сказал:

Постоянно, постоянно, постоянно выкидывает из сети. Спустя столько времени после релиза игра, всё равно, постоянно выдаёт ошибки о потерянном соединении.

Вот у меня с этим все в порядке, дисконнект лишь сегодня один был. Но есть другие проблемы — игра периодически виснет, ну и  порой при входе в онлайн выдает непредвиденную ошибку типа “ffffff”

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1 час назад, ToaD сказал:

Есть и такое понятие как “человеческий фактор”, т.е. руки не из того места растут.

И не говорите. Вот вам список фиксов из последних двух патчей (про первые и писать не стоит). Посчитайте число упоминаний слова crash и перестаньте нести ерунду уже.

  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in a crash when running out of memory
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in potential save corruption and permanent loss of progress if the player was signed out of their Social Club account while in Story Mode
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in partial lighting of hair/fur when the Resolution Scale graphical setting was set to higher than the native resolution
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in a crash when entering the Landing Page during game startup
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in a crash during initial startup for some specific hardware configurations
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in random crashes during gameplay on systems using a Nvidia GTX 970 graphics card
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in a crash when starting the Benchmark Tool on low-end systems
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in instability on some systems running Windows 10 Version 1090 (November 2019 Update)
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in audio stuttering/stalling when the game is running at high framerates
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in pixelated/blocky rendering artifacts on shadows during some cutscenes
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in rendering and lighting artifacts when the Screen Space Ambient Occlusion graphical option was set to Ultra
  • Improvements to fix several issues that resulted in rendering and lighting artifacts on some systems during gameplay
  • Improvements to fix several issues that resulted in random crashes during gameplay in Story Mode and Red Dead Online
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a crash when changing Windows audio devices/settings while the game was running
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a crash when launching the game after switching between Vulkan and DirectX 12
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a crash when graphical settings were changed and applied while close to the VRAM limit
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a crash during loading screens when launching Story Mode or Red Dead Online
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a crash when attempting to quit the game
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a crash when switching between several input devices
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a crash during gameplay when using keyboard and mouse controls
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a crash when transitioning between Story Mode and Red Dead Online
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a crash when entering Photo Mode while the player was in cinematic camera mode
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a crash during certain weather conditions on systems with multiple graphics cards
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in graphical errors and other instability when using Vulkan with multiple graphics cards
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a random crash during gameplay when using DirectX 12
  • Improvements to address issues that resulted in random crashes during gameplay in Story Mode and Red Dead Online
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in a crash when running out of memory
    Any users experiencing memory-related error messages should check their virtual memory settings are correct by following the instructions on this support article
    https://support.rockstargames.com/articles/360038178954/
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in potential save corruption and permanent loss of progress if the player was signed out of their Social Club account while in Story Mode
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in partial lighting of hair/fur when the Resolution Scale graphical setting was set to higher than the native resolution
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in a crash when entering the Landing Page during game startup
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in a crash during initial startup for some specific hardware configurations
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in random crashes during gameplay on systems using a Nvidia GTX 970 graphics card
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in a crash when starting the Benchmark Tool on low-end systems
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in instability on some systems running Windows 10 Version 1090 (November 2019 Update)
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in audio stuttering/stalling when the game is running at high framerates
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in pixelated/blocky rendering artifacts on shadows during some cutscenes
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in rendering and lighting artifacts when the Screen Space Ambient Occlusion graphical option was set to Ultra
  • Improvements to fix several issues that resulted in rendering and lighting artifacts on some systems during gameplay
  • Improvements to fix several issues that resulted in random crashes during gameplay in Story Mode and Red Dead Online
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in stalls on 4-core and 6-core CPUs
  • Players with NVIDIA graphics cards and 4-core or 6-core CPUs should install the GeForce Hotfix Driver Version 441.34 from NVIDIA and remove any launch arguments to resolve this issue: For more information, please see this support page: https://support.rockstargames.com/articles/360038940333
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a permanent mouse cursor being displayed at all times when launching the game via the Epic Games Store
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in the player’s cores draining at a faster rate than intended in Story Mode when running at high frame rates
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in player weight decreasing at a faster rate than intended in Red Dead Online when running at high frame rates
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in players not being able to place Waypoints on the Pause Menu Map in the correct location
  • Improvements to address an issue with matchmaking in Red Dead Online that resulted in players with incompatible control settings joining the same session. We recommend that players using mouse and keyboard controls should switch to ‘Free Aim’ targeting mode before entering Red Dead Online.
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in all custom graphical settings reverting to a low preset when the game was updated
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in an ‘Activation Required’ error when loading the game after system hardware or device changes were made
  • Improvements to address issues that resulted in a crash and displayed the ‘Failed to initialize graphics device’ or ‘Unable to initialize graphics driver ’errors when launching the game. If this issue still occurs, please make sure you have the latest graphics card drivers installed for your system.
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a crash when launching the game in Fullscreen display mode while using Vulkan
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a crash when launching the game with some graphics-related launch arguments active
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a crash during loading screens when entering Story Mode or Red Dead Online
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a crash while modifying weapons at the Gunsmith in Red Dead Online
  • Improvements to address issues that resulted in random crashes and the error “Red Dead Redemption 2 exited unexpectedly” during gameplay
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23 минуты назад, SerGEAnt сказал:

И не говорите. Вот вам список фиксов из последних двух патчей (про первые и писать не стоит). Посчитайте число упоминаний слова crash и перестаньте нести ерунду уже.

  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in a crash when running out of memory
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in potential save corruption and permanent loss of progress if the player was signed out of their Social Club account while in Story Mode
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in partial lighting of hair/fur when the Resolution Scale graphical setting was set to higher than the native resolution
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in a crash when entering the Landing Page during game startup
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in a crash during initial startup for some specific hardware configurations
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in random crashes during gameplay on systems using a Nvidia GTX 970 graphics card
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in a crash when starting the Benchmark Tool on low-end systems
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in instability on some systems running Windows 10 Version 1090 (November 2019 Update)
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in audio stuttering/stalling when the game is running at high framerates
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in pixelated/blocky rendering artifacts on shadows during some cutscenes
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in rendering and lighting artifacts when the Screen Space Ambient Occlusion graphical option was set to Ultra
  • Improvements to fix several issues that resulted in rendering and lighting artifacts on some systems during gameplay
  • Improvements to fix several issues that resulted in random crashes during gameplay in Story Mode and Red Dead Online
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a crash when changing Windows audio devices/settings while the game was running
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a crash when launching the game after switching between Vulkan and DirectX 12
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a crash when graphical settings were changed and applied while close to the VRAM limit
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a crash during loading screens when launching Story Mode or Red Dead Online
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a crash when attempting to quit the game
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a crash when switching between several input devices
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a crash during gameplay when using keyboard and mouse controls
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a crash when transitioning between Story Mode and Red Dead Online
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a crash when entering Photo Mode while the player was in cinematic camera mode
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a crash during certain weather conditions on systems with multiple graphics cards
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in graphical errors and other instability when using Vulkan with multiple graphics cards
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a random crash during gameplay when using DirectX 12
  • Improvements to address issues that resulted in random crashes during gameplay in Story Mode and Red Dead Online
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in a crash when running out of memory
    Any users experiencing memory-related error messages should check their virtual memory settings are correct by following the instructions on this support article
    https://support.rockstargames.com/articles/360038178954/
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in potential save corruption and permanent loss of progress if the player was signed out of their Social Club account while in Story Mode
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in partial lighting of hair/fur when the Resolution Scale graphical setting was set to higher than the native resolution
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in a crash when entering the Landing Page during game startup
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in a crash during initial startup for some specific hardware configurations
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in random crashes during gameplay on systems using a Nvidia GTX 970 graphics card
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in a crash when starting the Benchmark Tool on low-end systems
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in instability on some systems running Windows 10 Version 1090 (November 2019 Update)
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in audio stuttering/stalling when the game is running at high framerates
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in pixelated/blocky rendering artifacts on shadows during some cutscenes
  • Improvements to fix an issue that resulted in rendering and lighting artifacts when the Screen Space Ambient Occlusion graphical option was set to Ultra
  • Improvements to fix several issues that resulted in rendering and lighting artifacts on some systems during gameplay
  • Improvements to fix several issues that resulted in random crashes during gameplay in Story Mode and Red Dead Online
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in stalls on 4-core and 6-core CPUs
  • Players with NVIDIA graphics cards and 4-core or 6-core CPUs should install the GeForce Hotfix Driver Version 441.34 from NVIDIA and remove any launch arguments to resolve this issue: For more information, please see this support page: https://support.rockstargames.com/articles/360038940333
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a permanent mouse cursor being displayed at all times when launching the game via the Epic Games Store
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in the player’s cores draining at a faster rate than intended in Story Mode when running at high frame rates
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in player weight decreasing at a faster rate than intended in Red Dead Online when running at high frame rates
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in players not being able to place Waypoints on the Pause Menu Map in the correct location
  • Improvements to address an issue with matchmaking in Red Dead Online that resulted in players with incompatible control settings joining the same session. We recommend that players using mouse and keyboard controls should switch to ‘Free Aim’ targeting mode before entering Red Dead Online.
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in all custom graphical settings reverting to a low preset when the game was updated
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in an ‘Activation Required’ error when loading the game after system hardware or device changes were made
  • Improvements to address issues that resulted in a crash and displayed the ‘Failed to initialize graphics device’ or ‘Unable to initialize graphics driver ’errors when launching the game. If this issue still occurs, please make sure you have the latest graphics card drivers installed for your system.
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a crash when launching the game in Fullscreen display mode while using Vulkan
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a crash when launching the game with some graphics-related launch arguments active
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a crash during loading screens when entering Story Mode or Red Dead Online
  • Improvements to address an issue that resulted in a crash while modifying weapons at the Gunsmith in Red Dead Online
  • Improvements to address issues that resulted in random crashes and the error “Red Dead Redemption 2 exited unexpectedly” during gameplay

...и не говори! С начала запуска игры, через Роков, и до сего дня, т.к я в неё до сих пор играю, что-то прям критического не заметил ни разу. Несколько вылетов, когда въезжал в города ночью, да на скорости, я не считаю большой проблемой. При запуске возникла одна дилемма: вход в социал клаб. Мой пароль отказался принимать. Я его переделал, зашёл и все норм. Наверное, я просто дикий везунчик?)

3 часа назад, DupaVoz сказал:

Постоянно, постоянно, постоянно выкидывает из сети. Спустя столько времени после релиза игра, всё равно, постоянно выдаёт ошибки о потерянном соединении.

ни разу подобного не было, опять везение?)

5 часов назад, SerGEAnt сказал:

Вы видимо не в курсе, что игра зависала при распаковке, перекачивала сама себя, грузила CPU на 100% в роликах, вылетала в меню, при загрузке, в роликах. На то, что она не выдает 60 ФПС, всем плевать.

нет, не в курсе, а должен быть, если такого не видел, при собственной игре? Но не исключаю проблем у других, ест-но.

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странные какие-то люди, им показали список фиксов размером с несколько листов А4, а они по-прежнему талдычат “а у меня не было, а я не сталкивался”. Выходит, рокстары лохи, лепят многометровые патчи к идеально работающей игре.:laugh:

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35 минут назад, Freeman665 сказал:

странные какие-то люди, им показали список фиксов размером с несколько листов А4, а они по-прежнему талдычат “а у меня не было, а я не сталкивался”. Выходит, рокстары лохи, лепят многометровые патчи к идеально работающей игре.:laugh:

Выходит, что проблемы есть, и кто-то с ними сталкивается, а поскольку игру делали не под меня, или кого-либо ещё, конкретно, а под массовую аудиторию, то понятное дело, что клепают патчи. 
Собственно, я в комменте и написал, что не исключаю проблем у других, ес-но, но я везунчик, по ходу дела!)

p.s возможно, не так страшен чёрт, как его малюют?)

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25 минут назад, the punisher сказал:

p.s возможно, не так страшен чёрт, как его малюют?)

Страшен. Вылеты (непредвиденная ошибка), просто вылеты, бесконечная загрузка в одиночной игре и постоянный дисконнект.

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